This week two educator-legislators, Senator Martine Gulick of Chittenden Central, and Representative Erin Brady of Williston, join us to speak out about their decision to vote no on the Education Bill after it came out of conference committee on June 16th. These two passionate education policymakers go deep with us about how they came to that choice and what went down in the statehouse.

We discuss the factors that played into the decision, what they saw on the house and senate floor during the vote, and their hopes and concerns for the future of public education in Vermont.

Secretary of State Sarah Copeland Hanzas joins the podcast to discuss the elections bill, The Kid Governor Program, office initiatives, and voter security. She also shares her thoughts on what it means to be a Vermonter and, of course, her favorite creemee order.

In the opening segment, Andy and Joanna break down the activity from the June 16th legislative session, including the drama surrounding the education reform vote

Joanna and Andy discuss whether the Philly Phantic is cute or obnoxious and his obvious inferiority to Mr. Met.

Are Vermonters born, or are they forged through mud, snow, and ice? We asked some of Vermont's political and community leaders what being a real Vermonter means to them. Andy and Joanna share their own perspectives but end up debating the proper way to merge on the interstate.

In our opening segment Joanna gets philosophical about her elderberry tree while Andy discovers the surprising lack of pockets in women's clothing.

In our final segment, Joanna and Andy preview the upcoming week in the legislative session, including the conference committee report on the education bill, the election bill, and potential reconsideration of two bills vetoed by the governor.

Senator Becca White drops by the podcast to share her thoughts on the session, climate policy, immigration, and transportation.

Joanna and Senator White take a deep dive on statehouse style, while Andy tries to think of something smart to say but ultimately decides not to speak.

Senator White gives us her creemee order and in our opening segment Andy continues to complain about getting wet at a golf tournament where he and Senator White were partners.

We explore the housing bill, now on its way to the Governor’s desk, and examine the recent events that have caused a stalemate in the education bill.

In our opening segment, Andy talks about his ongoing feud with a local rooster and his lingering resentment over getting drenched at a golf tournament. Joanna and her husband introduce the Julows to the world of oysters.

In our "Last Licks" segment, Andy challenges Joanna to name some overlooked gems of Vermont, while Joanna asks Andy unfair questions about Lake Champlain.

Original Music by Ryan Ronzoni.

Charity Clark joins us! Vermont’s Attorney General stops by to discuss her lawsuits against the Trump administration, her favorite hikes, how parenting influences her role, and her top creemee choices.

We get into voter protections, citizenship challenges, how Vermonters can help preserve democracy, and community in Vermont.

In the opening segment Joanna and Andy talk about the latest twist in the housing bill, and Andy complains that he's too old for home construction.

Join Joanna Grossman, Chair of the Chittenden County Democrats, and former State Senator Andy Julow as they explore all things Vermont—politics, culture, and beyond.

In this episode, we'll recap a week that saw Joanna and Andy in the same Statehouse committee room—but sitting at different lunch tables.

For our Hot Toppings segment, we'll take a deep dive into education funding, including the origins of our current funding formula, its apparent demise in 2024, and how reform efforts have progressed through the executive and legislative branches.

We'll wrap up the episode with Last Licks, where Joanna asks Andy about all things county fairs, and Andy makes Joanna choose between Vermont icons and their New York counterparts.

We're podcasters now! Join Joanna Grossman, Chair of the Chittenden County Democrats and Former State Senator Andy Julow as they explore all things Vermont Politics, Culture, and Beyond

In this episode we'll catch up on our weeks at the statehouse and traveling, discuss the challenges of pivoting the message for Democrats after the election losses of 2024, share our backgrounds, campaign story, origins of the podcast and its name, and dive a little into the history of creemees. Andy asks Joanna about the makeup and elections of the Burlington City Council and Joanna quizzes Andy on how Town Meeting Day works.

We're podcasters now! Join Joanna Grossman, Chair of the Chittenden County Democrats and Former Vermont State Senator Andy Julow as they explore all things Vermont Politics, Culture, and Beyond